[Cast&Blast]

Thanks for the cool link at the top of this forum. My upcoming puppy trip to Illinois produced the following results. I'll comment in a reply to this post because this part is so long...

1. Virginia (Your Starting State)
This State DOES Honor Your CCW Permit.
For more information visit Virginia's State CCW Legal page

2. Maryland
This State DOES NOT Honor Your CCW Permit.
Maryland IS an Open Carry State. Fully preempted open carry permitted on foot and in vehicles with a license; localities fully preempted. Please see www.opencarry.org.
For more information visit Maryland's State CCW Legal page

3. Pennsylvania
This State DOES Honor Your CCW Permit.
For more information visit Pennsylvania's State CCW Legal page

4. Ohio
This State DOES Honor Your CCW Permit.
For more information visit Ohio's State CCW Legal page

5. Indiana
This State DOES Honor Your CCW Permit.
Very restrictive non-resident issue policies.
For more information visit Indiana's State CCW Legal page

6. Illinois (Your Ending State)
This State DOES NOT Honor Your CCW Permit.
Illinois IS an Open Carry State. Rural Open Carry. Open Carry Generally Allowed in Non-Incorporated Areas. See www.opencarry.org.
For more information visit Illinois's State CCW Legal page

Federal Firearms Transportation Statute
The federal firearms transportation statute basically states that you are allowed to transport a legally owned firearm through any state as long as you meet the following requirements.
1. Your weapon is kept unloaded and stored in a separate compartment not readily accessible by either the driver or passengers.
2. Any ammunition is kept separate from location of firearms and is also not readily accessible by either the driver or passengers.

 

[Cast&Blast]

So here's how I look at it. I need to be fully compliant in Maryland, they are bad, bad, bad. And I live a mile from Maryland and am in that state several times a week, so I just have to be in the habit of complying.

I don't mind keeping an unloaded handgun with ammunition in a separate location till I leave Maryland. My concerns are with hotel stops. In a strange town, in a hotel filled with strange people located in a strange neighborhood, I like the idea of bringing my own hotel security with me. Same applies for gassing up at truck stops.

The first night we'll stop probably in Indiana. Doesn't seem to be a problem because they honor my permit.

But the second night is in the only other problem state outside of Maryland, my destination state. I'm not permitted to concealed carry there, but surely I'm okay having a gun in my hotel room, no?

 

[sheepdog]

I read it "No...."...I refer to the "Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States" Published yearly...2008 issue...it says open carry is prohibited in all public areas for both Maryland and Illinois...they are both saying cased and unloaded in vehicle trunk...separate the ammo from the guns as far as the trunk allows...since Illinois says Travellers may possess without a state ID card if the weapons are unloaded and securely cased in trunk or storage compartment of vehicle and ammo is stowed apart from the weapons...and that residents are required to have a firearms identification card BEFORE they can purchase or possess rifles, shotguns, handguns, or ammunition, I read that to say that travellers may not possess anywhere in the state because they'd be outside the rules for travellers, they are not residents, and don't have a firearms ID card...Ill. is seeming to be the most restrictive...I'd trunk em and store the ammo as far away from them as feasible....both states suck so be careful!!!

 

[Cast&Blast]

I read it "No...."...I refer to the "Traveler's Guide to the Firearms Laws of the Fifty States" Published yearly...2008 issue...it says open carry is prohibited in all public areas for both Maryland and Illinois...they are both saying cased and unloaded in vehicle trunk...separate the ammo from the guns as far as the trunk allows...since Illinois says Travellers may possess without a state ID card if the weapons are unloaded and securely cased in trunk or storage compartment of vehicle and ammo is stowed apart from the weapons...and that residents are required to have a firearms identification card BEFORE they can purchase or possess rifles, shotguns, handguns, or ammunition, I read that to say that travellers may not possess anywhere in the state because they'd be outside the rules for travellers, they are not residents, and don't have a firearms ID card...Ill. is seeming to be the most restrictive...I'd trunk em and store the ammo as far away from them as feasible....both states suck so be careful!!!

Yeah, it does seem like one of the worst states for sure. Surprising, since it's Obama's state and he's so supportive of 2nd Amendment rights! :shock:

 

[Johngoboom]

Eddie what they don't know won't hurt em...Would I have the gun concealed in IL...no, but in your hotel room should be a different story.

People go deer hunting in IL all the time. There is actually very good deer hunting in the Nothern part. People bring there guns into IL to hunt...and there is no problem. If you don't want to bring your pistol in, bring your long gun in a case, and bring that into your hotel room. That way you should be legal.

 

[Cast&Blast]

Eddie what they don't know won't hurt em...Would I have the gun concealed in IL...no, but in your hotel room should be a different story.

People go deer hunting in IL all the time. There is actually very good deer hunting in the Nothern part. People bring there guns into IL to hunt...and there is no problem. If you don't want to bring your pistol in, bring your long gun in a case, and bring that into your hotel room. That way you should be legal.

Good point. And a lever action Model 94 - already proven as a highly effective deer rifle - would also make a very nice hotel room defense weapon!

 

[sheepdog]

I disagree...when the law says that a RESIDENT of the state must have a state firearms identification card before POSSESSING long arms, handguns, or ammunition in his home state, state law prohibits the open or concealed carry of firearms in public settings, and specifically spells out the exemption offered a traveller:Travellers passing through Illinois may possess firearms or ammuntion without a state identification card IF the weapons are unloaded and securely cased in the trunk or storage compartment of the vehicle AND the ammunition is stowed apart from the weapons... It also says non-residents may possess loaded firearms if the weapons are employed on publicly recognized target ranges, at bonafied gun shows, OR IN A HUNTING FORMAT WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL POSSESSES A NON-RESIDENT HUNTING LICENSE-(no mention of a hotel)-I think to be found anywhere in the state as a non-resident in possession of a firearm or ammunition not carried as a traveller must would put you in jeapordy...Illinois State Police 217-782-7980...time to call the O-fficial Opinion fellas....I don't think you should try to slip by in such a state...don't want to take up a collection to make your bond...and, should you have to use it....new world dawning!!! These folks don't play...and they ain't good ole boys...Can't pet your new puppy in the pokey......do I sound adamant enough???

 

[Cast&Blast]

I disagree...when the law says that a RESIDENT of the state must have a state firearms identification card before POSSESSING long arms, handguns, or ammunition in his home state, state law prohibits the open or concealed carry of firearms in public settings, and specifically spells out the exemption offered a traveller:Travellers passing through Illinois may possess firearms or ammuntion without a state identification card IF the weapons are unloaded and securely cased in the trunk or storage compartment of the vehicle AND the ammunition is stowed apart from the weapons... It also says non-residents may possess loaded firearms if the weapons are employed on publicly recognized target ranges, at bonafied gun shows, OR IN A HUNTING FORMAT WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL POSSESSES A NON-RESIDENT HUNTING LICENSE-(no mention of a hotel)-I think to be found anywhere in the state as a non-resident in possession of a firearm or ammunition not carried as a traveller must would put you in jeapordy...Illinois State Police 217-782-7980...time to call the O-fficial Opinion fellas....I don't think you should try to slip by in such a state...don't want to take up a collection to make your bond...and, should you have to use it....new world dawning!!! These folks don't play...and they ain't good ole boys...Can't pet your new puppy in the pokey......do I sound adamant enough???

Yeah, I agree. Man, I knew Maryland was bad but Illinois is worse. I guess I take for granted, living in Virginia, that some states really, REALLY do not want guns within their borders. Stupid.

 

[sheepdog]

...that in the state that had probably the most gang violence from Prohibition, was and is chock full of Mafia, and I guarantee you that if you know the Family, you can get a Firearms Identification Card with no problem....talk about corruption....I will never spend a penny there...

 

[Natalie]

There's so much to learn. Never realized that a trip could be so problematic. Anything is worth getting Winnie though.

Eddie what part of Virginia do you live in? I love that state - it's gorgeous. We've been there a few times. One trip through was in the fall and everytime we turned a corner it took our breath away. So many oohs and aahs that it became funny.

 

[sheepdog]

...they got some ooohs and aaaahs in the summertime, too...ohyeah!!!!

 

[Bountyhunter]

Eddie, I'm in NH and can't CCW in Vermont, Mass, or Maine. Now that sucks!! :evil:

 

[Cast&Blast]

Eddie, I'm in NH and can't CCW in Vermont, Mass, or Maine. Now that sucks!! :evil:

That's like being CCW landlocked!

 

[sheepdog]

...BH...I'll bite...why can't you CCW in Vermont? There is no license required there for concealed carry for either resident or non-resident.....unless it changed since January and I can't find a change....

 

[Johngoboom]

I disagree...when the law says that a RESIDENT of the state must have a state firearms identification card before POSSESSING long arms, handguns, or ammunition in his home state, state law prohibits the open or concealed carry of firearms in public settings, and specifically spells out the exemption offered a traveller:Travellers passing through Illinois may possess firearms or ammuntion without a state identification card IF the weapons are unloaded and securely cased in the trunk or storage compartment of the vehicle AND the ammunition is stowed apart from the weapons... It also says non-residents may possess loaded firearms if the weapons are employed on publicly recognized target ranges, at bonafied gun shows, OR IN A HUNTING FORMAT WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL POSSESSES A NON-RESIDENT HUNTING LICENSE-(no mention of a hotel)-I think to be found anywhere in the state as a non-resident in possession of a firearm or ammunition not carried as a traveller must would put you in jeapordy...Illinois State Police 217-782-7980...time to call the O-fficial Opinion fellas....I don't think you should try to slip by in such a state...don't want to take up a collection to make your bond...and, should you have to use it....new world dawning!!! These folks don't play...and they ain't good ole boys...Can't pet your new puppy in the pokey......do I sound adamant enough???

Sheepdog, you had the info I didn't on that one...Nice catch.

And Eddie, I think he's right, time to call the police and see what they have to say.

Stupid IL gun story: Lake Michigan Seperates IL and Michigan...A freind of mine found a long gun for sale North of Chicago, and called up the dealer. He said that since IL is a border state with MI, he would like to purchase the gun. The dealer said that they have had problems with IL in the past, and that Lake Michigan doesn't count as a border. :roll:

If Lake Michigan isn't a border how come if I fish Lake Michigan and I cross into IL waters I have to have a different fishing licence, and how, if I can get there by crossing the lake does IL not border MI???

Stupid IL... :evil:

 

[sheepdog]

...I think you're in cahoots with Natalie, tryin' to get him into the calaboose so y'all can show up and "rescue" the pup......

 

[Cast&Blast]

There's so much to learn. Never realized that a trip could be so problematic. Anything is worth getting Winnie though.

Eddie what part of Virginia do you live in? I love that state - it's gorgeous. We've been there a few times. One trip through was in the fall and everytime we turned a corner it took our breath away. So many oohs and aahs that it became funny.

I'm about as far north as you can be and still be in VA. If you look on a map, find where WV, VA and MD all meet, and I'm just south of there. Fairly rural and scenic out here, but not too far from civilization (job).

I've lived in Virginia all my life, and am quite fond of it too!

 

[Johngoboom]

Sheepdog:

Well, I can be in IL in about 2 1/2 hours...

 

[Terry_P]

Eddie, I'm in NH and can't CCW in Vermont, Mass, or Maine. Now that sucks!! :evil:

If you have a carry license in NH you can carry in VT unless that recently changed.

http://www.handgunlaw.us/maps/new_hampshire_map.gif

So it sounds like your not supposed to have a loaded 357 in the center console if you go thru MA, CT, NY, WV, or MD. Sounds like a real problem.

C&B:
When I go into a Hotel I believe in the old adage thats it's better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

 

[sheepdog]

C&B has no trouble in West Va ---they honor his Va. permit...he may carry loaded and concealed in his vehicle...

Still don't understand the references made by BH and Terry_P as to carry in Vt...my sources say it is totally unrestricted...anyone may carry concealed in Vt...has no bearing on if or where you have a permit......what am I missing???? Only restriction I find is that long guns in the vehicle be unloaded...and a few normal prohibited places...