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Didn't think the first post would be about the firing of managers for sign stealing. Hinch from the Stroh's, Cora from the Red Sox and Beltran from the Mets are all gone, so far. Hinch was suspended for a year and Cora and Beltran are awaiting their fate. Pitchers and catchers report in less than a month.
 

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I'm thinkin Cora will get a harsh suspension, since he's been caught before. Not sure about Beltran.
 

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I'm thinkin Cora will get a harsh suspension, since he's been caught before. Not sure about Beltran.
If they prove he was doing it in Boston as well he may be gone for good. I would also expect other heads will roll with Boston as they did it in 2017 with smart watches. Not sure how they communicated to the hitter though. They will lose draft choices and pay the $5 mil max.

I'm guess a year with Beltran same as Hinch.
 

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Weren't they banging on a trash can in the dugout?
 

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So the Sox with the Twins involved as well just traded Mookie Betts and David Price to the Dodgers in a 3 way deal:

DODGERS GET: OF Mookie Betts, LHP David Price, cash (all from BOS)

RED SOX GET: OF Alex Verdugo (from LAD), RHP Brusdar Graterol (MLB Pipeline's No. 83 prospect, from MIN)

TWINS GET: RHP Kenta Maeda (from LAD)

Doesn't bother me getting rid of Price but Mookie hurt. He wanted 12/420 which is pretty absurd so I understand why he is gone. Under contract at $ 35M/ year until he is 40, don't think it's going to happen. If the Dodgers don't bite the Sox will be under the cap max this year so they can bid away next year when he is a FA.

Sox still need a starting pitcher.
 

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Pitchers and catchers report Tuesday. Sox still don't have a manager although it sounds like Ron Roenicke who was the bench coach may get the job. Heard they are waiting for the results of the MLB investigation on sign stealing first. I hear Bobby Valentine is still out there. :eek:
 

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Spring is here folks as pitchers and catchers report today. The Sox just traded off the best position player they have had since Ted Williams because he wanted to get paid too much money to stay. They also traded their 2nd best starter and there is talk they may trade the only pitcher they have that could remotely be considered a closer. Sounds like they will go all the way this year. :roll:
 

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Rules changes for 2020:

THREE-BATTER MINIMUM:
This is the big one that's been grabbing the headlines since it was first reported.

All pitchers -- both starters and relievers -- now have to face at least three batters (or pitch until the inning is over) before they come out of a game. The only exception is an injury or illness that prevents the pitcher from being able to finish his three batters.

The main effect of this rule will be on specialist relievers, who are often used for only one batter to give their team a favorable matchup -- for example, a left-handed pitcher who faces only left-handed hitters, whom he is most likely to get out (often nicknamed a “LOOGY,” for “left-handed one-out guy”). There will be no more of that in 2020. The rule could also impact teams that use openers -- typical relievers who start a game to match up specifically against the top of the opposing order. Now, an opener would have to face at least three batters even if he has a bad matchup in that run.

The three-batter rule goes into effect in Spring Training on March 12.

ROSTER LIMITS:
There are five parts to the roster limits rule change:

26-man rosters -- Teams' active rosters are being increased from 25 to 26 players for the regular season (through Aug. 31) and during the postseason. Teams are limited to carrying a maximum of 13 pitchers.

Smaller rosters in September -- MLB is adjusting the size of September rosters to 28 players, including a max of 14 pitchers.

Previously, when rosters expanded in September, any player on a team's 40-man roster could be added to the Major League club. And while teams usually didn’t use all 40, it was common to see 30-plus players active for a given game in the final month of the season. That often caused longer games in September with teams using a lot more relief pitchers or pinch-hitters in certain situations than they would have been able to with normal roster sizes.

Two-way player designation -- A "two-way player" -- someone who both hits and pitches -- is now an official designation. That lets them stay on the roster as a position player and pitch in games without counting toward their team's 13-pitcher pitcher limit. If you designate someone a two-way player, they have to stay that way through the end of the year.

This is for players like the Angels' Shohei Ohtani, a starting pitcher and designated hitter, and the Reds' Michael Lorenzen, who appears as a reliever and also plays the outfield. True two-way players essentially hadn't been seen in the Major Leagues since the days of Babe Ruth until Ohtani arrived from Japan in 2018.

Players have to meet certain criteria to qualify as two-way players -- in either the current MLB season or the previous one, they have to pitch at least 20 innings in the Majors and start at least 20 games as a position player or DH where they bat three or more times.

The two-way player designation for 2020 also allows players who met the requirements in 2018 to qualify this season. So Ohtani, who didn't pitch last year because of Tommy John surgery but did pitch as a rookie in '18, can still be named a two-way player for the Angels right away.

Position players pitching -- Position players are allowed to pitch only if a game goes to extra innings, or if their team is winning or losing by more than six runs. During normal circumstances in a nine-inning game, only the team's 13 designated pitchers -- or two-way players -- are allowed to pitch.

Teams were using position player pitchers more than ever before in the past couple of seasons. In 2019, more than 50 different position players pitched in at least one game, generally so teams could save their pitchers' arms if they felt a game was out of hand.

The 27th man -- What used to be the "26th man" is now a "27th man" thanks to the new 26-man roster size.

Teams used to be able to call up an extra player in special circumstances -- mainly for a doubleheader. They still can ... that player is now just the 27th on the roster, not the 26th. Teams are allowed to call up a 14th pitcher for these games.

INJURED LIST AND OPTION PERIODS:
Pitchers and two-way players are returning to a 15-day injured list. That is, once they're placed on the IL, they can't be reinstated for 15 days.

The injured list used to be 15 days for all players until the 2017 season, when it was reduced to 10 days. Position players will still have a 10-day IL under the new rules.

Additionally, pitchers who are optioned to the Minor Leagues now have to remain there for 15 days rather than 10. The option period for position players is still 10 days.

CHALLENGE TIME:
Managers now only have 20 seconds to decide to challenge a play instead of 30.

That shortens the amount of time they have to get information about video replays, which might allow them to figure out if they'd win a challenge before they actually challenge the play. Of the changes that were announced on Wednesday, this is the only one that hadn’t previously been reported publicly.

David Adler is a reporter for MLB.com based in New York. Follow him on Twitter at @_dadler.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-rule-changes-for-2020-season

Not sure how I feel about the 3 batter minimum but it should speed things up.
 

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It was reported Chris Sale threw 15 pitches to batters for the first time on Monday and came in today and his elbow was sore. They did an MRI and we'll know on Wednesday whether the 2020 season will be a bust or not. If he can't go we'll have 3 starters and probably a couple of minor leaguer's. Here's hoping it's just normal early season stiffness. Sale's spring got delayed as he got the flu which turned into pneumonia.
 

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Chris Sale is going to have Tommy John surgery. He had elbow issues last year and rather than get it done then they waffled. Now he will be out the entire season plus half of the next. But they will be under the salary cap.
 

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Sale underwent the surgery at the end of March. Typical 14 months recovery so looking like June or July 2021. I remember John Lackey after his surgery he was pretty useless the partial season but was really good the following season. If they work hard in the offseason they can come back strong.

Hopefully we can get back to normal soon as I miss no baseball to watch.
 

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Turned on the TV about 4 yesterday PM and the local Fox channel was rebroadcasting the game 4 of the 2004 World Series between the Red Sox and the Cardinals. It was in the 6th inning so I watched it. Yup the Red Sox won again. :p
 

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Well, I look at it this way, the Mariners won't even have to play a game to come in last, so they will be saving lots of money!
 

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The Red Sox without Sale will be fighting the Orioles for the bottom of the AL East. A shorter season is probably better as it minimizes the pain. Their 5th starter right now is named bullpen.
 

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MLB Commissioner ruled:

I find that J.T. Watkins, the Red Sox video replay system operator, on at least some occasions during the 2018 regular season, utilized the game feeds in the replay room, in violation of MLB regulations, to revise sign sequence information that he had permissibly provided to players prior to the game.
The info was only worthwhile if a runner got to second and could signal to the batter. No water cooler banging and:

• I do not find that then-Manager Alex Cora, the Red Sox coaching staff, the Red Sox front office, or most of the players on the 2018 Red Sox knew or should have known that Watkins was utilizing in-game video to update the information that he had learned from his pregame analysis. Communication of these violations was episodic and isolated to Watkins and a limited number of Red Sox players only.

• I find that the Red Sox front office consistently communicated MLB’s sign stealing rules to non-player staff and made commendable efforts toward instilling a culture of compliance in their organization.
 

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Sox are sellers at the trading deadline. Yesterday they sent Mitch Moreland to the Padres for 2 prospects. He is having a fine year and has been a big plus to the Sox both on and off the field since he came here. Good luck Mitch, at least the Padres look like they will be in the post season..
 

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Although it is unclear it's looking like 4 weeks until pitchers and catchers report. The last place Red Sox have done very little improve this year so far. Pitching is not looking good and the Yankees signed Kluber that the Red Sox were after. Right now Rodriguez who is a decent pitcher but after Covid has a weak heart, Evoldi has had more surgeries than Michael Jackson, Sale won't be ready until June/July as he is recovering from Tommy John, and they resigned Perez who had about a 6 ERA last season. Not optimistic.
 

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Pitchers and catcher report either the 16th or 17th and first workouts 17th and 18th. Baseball starts can spring be far away?
 
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