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I looked at a couple of SKS's last night. One was Chinese the other Russian I believe. The Chinese made had a scope and was still cheaper than the Russian. What is better about the Russian made SKS's?
 

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i don't really know if one is better than the other. it might be more of a numbers game as a whole lot more sks chinese rifles have probably been inported than the russian version

The chinese ones 1st started comming in before the AWB and had bayonet lugs and such. Then to get around restrictions they started to ship them without the lugs/baynonets but at about that time it became illegal to swap out the fixed 10rd mag for a detachable 20 rdr. This was good ole' days when we also could get those good norinco 1911 pistols, chinese torkerov pistols, and such.

i've been told the chinese sks were not really "surplus" but were really of recent manufacture and made to import to America as there was a market for them. There's been debates about some differences in the chinese such as threaded barrel vs. pinned barrel and such. Shot both and don't see much difference in function.

The russians are surplus made years upon years back. Some of these have chrome line bores but told some do not. I have seen better wood on the russians, about the biggest negative i have seen on some russians is the safety. I've seen some click and snap into position as they should but i've also seen some that were "friction" position. The russian ones i have seen have a year of manufacture on them. I've heard that some under the table dealings with our govt and economic aid/trade practices have happened and that is the reason no more russian sks's are imported.

I guess if you really want a piece of history, get the russian. If you just want a shooter, it don't matter.

The main thing i would look at in either is the serial number. its stamped everywhere so what i do is check the # on the receiver to the number on the trigger guard, stock, magazine, etc to see if the match. If they don't, its a parts gun thats been put together therefore it should be cheaper than an all orginal.

My experience with the scopes on sks has been terrible as the receiver mounted covers tend to be loose. B-square makes a good one but required a permenant modification to the rifle.
 

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I've owned both and my brother and father have too, but I've never really noticed a difference. They both shot good and I never had a jam. I may just pick one up if I don't get the GP right away.
 

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I'm pretty sure that's what I'm getting. :mrgreen:
 

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Johngoboom said:
What do you guys think of a SKS for a cheap SHTF gun????
i think its a good choice. an inexpensive semi-auto with good reliabiliy, easy to service, tough as all get out, and cheap, effective ammo.
Just get some stripper clips and your set..................

Many dislike the fact its only a 10 rd fixed magazine, but for a SHTF weapon, it will be used in a defensive role not an offensive role so in my opinion it has adequate firepower for a realistic SHTF scenero. And should a rapid reload be required, the stripper clips help immensley.

In my mind, in a SHTF realistic scenero, the agressors are thugs,criminals, and cowards. They are not an army with planned objectives and goals with an intent to capture a position with acceptable losses. They are hell-raisers and destroyers looking for a "soft target" of oppturnity and will be turned back quickly if faced with a "hard target"...........
 

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In my mind, in a SHTF realistic scenero, the agressors are thugs,criminals, and cowards. They are not an army with planned objectives and goals with an intent to capture a position with acceptable losses. They are hell-raisers and destroyers looking for a "soft target" of oppturnity and will be turned back quickly if faced with a "hard target"...........
I agree completely. A few rounds of SKS fire will send them running for the hills. ;)
 

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Not to side track, but I still have one of those Norinco 1911's...accurate and shoots nicely.....
I have handled a few and they seemed respectable and a lot of folks i knew liked to use them as a base gun to trick out.

What really ticked me off, is the chinese were suspose to make/import a copy of the colt huntsman 22 semi pistol but got axed along with further imports of the sks and 1911. :evil:
 

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I'll be totally honest...I had a Colt Gold Cup at the same time I bought my Norinco. I could not shoot the Colt to same my life. It was terribly inaccurate, and would not feed anything. Replaced extractor, did everything I could, short if sending it back to Colt...that gun was just a pos....I got rid of the Colt, and kept the Norc. I have about 7000 rounds through the Norc, and it still shoots great. It will feed everything I feed it, including hp's.....The Colt would not even feed 230gr fmj's on a consistant basis. Have not owned a Colt since..... The only downside of the Norinco was some Chip McCormick mags I tried in it...they didn't work for squat. Ended up getting some Wilsons, and they worked fine.
 

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i don't care for those chip mccormick "shooting star" mags as they gave me nothing but trouble. I had much better luck with wilson 7 rd mags as they were 100%.
 

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I lean towards the Chinese myself. Never had any sort of problem with either, but the Chinese manufacturing processes are a little better controlled. in actual shooting experience, kind of a wash. Where you see differences are rifles that were made outside those two places, such as the Romanians, etc.

That being said, nothing says "I am here to change things" quite the same way as a Soviet rifle can.
 

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deputy125 said:
Johngoboom said:
What do you guys think of a SKS for a cheap SHTF gun????


In my mind, in a SHTF realistic scenero, the agressors are thugs,criminals, and cowards. They are not an army with planned objectives and goals with an intent to capture a position with acceptable losses. They are hell-raisers and destroyers looking for a "soft target" of oppturnity and will be turned back quickly if faced with a "hard target"...........
you forgot zombies. :eek:

I have the chinese version myself, like it alot.
 

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for those with questions regarding Russian and Chinese SKS rifles, all your questions can be answered

http://www.surplusrifle.com/sks/index.asp

I am no longer over there because I no longer own an SKS rifle. But my preferance was the Russian over the Chinese because the Russian barrels are threaded and not stamped in.

Russian
Simonov is best known as the designer of the 7.62 Simonov System Self-loading Carbine Model 1945 otherwise known as the SKS 45.

Chinese
Chinese Type 56 SKS developed in the mid 1950s, a copy of the Russian SKS. Manufactured upon Soviet supplied equipment in Communist China.
 

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now here is an idea....................

why don't we use some of this "free trade" policies and have say Ruger purchase some of that old chinese or russian equipment, bring it over here, and start crankin' out sks rifles........heck, for that matter, just build the receivers here and import every thing else cheap and put it together over here under skilled American labor.........

if you build it, they will come....................
 

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Chip McCormick...poor quality...poor customer service...Wilson or MecGar for mags...

I agree that most common thugs will turn tail and run (if you miss)....but don't think for an instant that terrorists will: 1) they don't value human life...yours or theirs 2) if they thought normally, they wouldn't attack against tremendously superior odds 3)they have been living for the zero hour all their lives...it is their moment...they will, for the most part, fight to the death....don't underestimate them, and don't confuse them with criminals we've seen here !!!
 

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deputy125 said:
now here is an idea....................

why don't we use some of this "free trade" policies and have say Ruger purchase some of that old chinese or russian equipment, bring it over here, and start crankin' out sks rifles........heck, for that matter, just build the receivers here and import every thing else cheap and put it together over here under skilled American labor.........

if you build it, they will come....................
Because where is the fun in somebody else building it?
 

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I'd love for Ruger to build an SKS style rifle. I'd be onboard.
 

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Bountyhunter said:
I'd love for Ruger to build an SKS style rifle. I'd be onboard.
Shawn I hate to say it, but if Ruger did make an SKS style rifle, it would only have a 10 round magazine just like the Mini 14 and Mini 30 (speaking of which uses 7.62x39) and it would not be built like an SKS that in either Russian or Chinese can be dragged thru the mud, water and dust and still run like a Timex. The SKS are built for what ????? Also if Ruger built an SKS it would cost so much high than what it already does.

With the SKS rifles that already exist such as Russian SKS, Chinese SKS; Yugoslavian PAP; Romanian SKS; Albanian SKS; East German SKS; (North) Vietnamese SKS; North Korean SKS they can be purchased at a fraction of the price of a Ruger Mini or Ranch 30. The differant magazines are already endless from the standard 10 to large capacity and there are some that accept AK47 mags as well.

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I'm sure you're 100% right Montanan. ;)
 
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