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Hi, my first post here. I have arthritis in my right wrist. I want to start carrying a handgun and must pocket carry. I want to get extremely good so want to practice (300 rounds 2 or 3 times a week). I have narrowed it to two guns which both fit into the front pocket of my pants.

1. Sig P238 (HD or Spartan all steel frame), small but fairly heavy at 21oz unloaded, shooting 380
2. Walther PPS Mod 2. Larger gun, about the same weight 23oz, shooting 9mm.

Simple question: Which will be most comfortable (least recoil) for extensive target practice?

Thanks
Jim
 

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Welcome. I have the Sig P938 which is the 9 MM version of the the P238 and in 9 MM it is a soft shooter. The P238/938 weigh in at 15.2 oz not 23 and that makes them much easier to pocket carry which I do as my preferred carry method. I don't believe the P238 will give you any grief shooting it and will be accurate and reliable. It is SAO with a 6 pound trigger pull that lightens a half pound after break in firing. You can load and unload with the safety on and is carried cocked and locked. It is a fine carry pistol.

I believe the Walter PPS Mod 2 is only in 9 MM but the PPK is in .380 and is longer, higher and 1/2 pound heavier than the Sig. In addition the PPK has a DA/SA trigger with a 13 pound double action first shot pull and then 6 pound in single action. It is strictly your preference and you would be well served to go to a range that rents them and try both if possible. They both are 6+1 round capacity for flush fit mags.

My guess is you will like the little Sig better. They offer an extended 7 round mag that gives better grip for practice shooting and can be carried as a back up mag in addition to the flush fit 6 round in the pistol. Good luck and be sure to post up pics of what you buy. I don't think recoil will be an issue for you with either.
 

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I'm with Terry on the Sig. Have had a couple of the 938s and 9mm recoil was never an issue for me, but, of course, felt recoil is a subjective thing. What I loved most about the Sig 938s, though, was their excellent accuracy. Very easy to shoot as small guns, go. Utterly reliable.
 

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My preference would be the 938 if for no other reason than cost of ammo, 380 in my area is spendy and hard to find. That being said, my choice is a S&W M&P9 Shield, love that little gun!
 

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true, doesn't get any cheaper to shoot in centerfire pistol than 9mm. The Sig even shot the cheap alunimum case factory stuff just fine.
 

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I just recently switched to a NAA Guardian in.32 Auto. DAO, 6+1 capacity. It's 14 oz. empty. There is a slightly larger .380 version that's 19 oz.

In researching my choice I learned that in this size and weight, the .380 has about half again more perceived recoil than the .32. Pretty snappy. Many comments I found felt a sub-compact 9mm was more comfortable to shoot than a pocket .380. Of your choices, I would go for a Sig, but the 9mm 938.
 

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How did I misread that so bad. Didn't realize it until he posted the exact same thread on Sig Talk.

I will revise my post and say go with a P938.
 

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I thought you did recommend the 938? Did I misread your misread?

I don't remember which 938 you have, they have an amazing choice of 14 models? I don't think Sig has an all stainless one yet, like the 238HD. That was one selling point on my Guardian, besides the tiny size keeping it under a pound.
 

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I thought you did recommend the 938? Did I misread your misread?

I don't remember which 938 you have, they have an amazing choice of 14 models? I don't think Sig has an all stainless one yet, like the 238HD. That was one selling point on my Guardian, besides the tiny size keeping it under a pound.
True. All 938s use an alloy frame, but all models use a stainless steel slide, though with a variety of different finishes/coatings. Great little guns.
 

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Very classy look....:cool:
 

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May I suggest before deciding that you look at a Walther Pk380? It has a locked breech so the recoil spring is light and it is fairly large for a .380 so the recoil is light and the force to work the slide is among the lightest. It might make it attractive for one with arthritis in the hands or wrist. It is single stack and still concealable but big enough to shoot accuratly, possible helping balance the lower powered cartridge. It does not have the quality feel of some guns but is similar to the PPS and mine has been 100% reliable so far. It is not DAO like the PPS but DA/SA and has a good trigger pull on DA with full second strike. The safety is a bit unusual in that it does not block the trigger but covers the firing pin. You can dry fire to decock or work the slide to load or unload with the safety on all the time.
 
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