[Wizard]

I've had a shotgun and a .22 rifle at my house for about 6 months, that belong to my mother-in-law....she had my wife bring them over so I could find out what they are worth.

Shotgun
This shotgun is a Winchester Model 12 - 12ga Modified choke (I assume, because it is stamped 12ga Mod.). The bluing is pretty much gone. The shoulder stock has a crack in it, but doesn't look bad enough to hurt anything. The gun looks rough, but, reblueing and a little TLC would work wonders for it.....thinking about buying it myself....have no idea what it is worth....

Rifle
This is a Remington Speedmaster, model 552. This gun also needs to be reblued. Stock is in good shape. My wife's father was a butcher by trade, and we used to use this gun to drop the pork and beef. Again, I have no idea what this gun would be worth.

BTW: both of these guns are at least 36 years old...and probably even more....he had them when my wife and I got married

Thanks for the replies.....

 

[gunman42782]

The Model 12 could be worth anywhere from $200 to $650 or more, depending on the configuration and condition. It sounds like this one would be on the low end of the scale. The Remington could be from $75 up to $400, again depending on condition and exact configuration. There is a 552 A, 552C and 552 deluxe speedmaster and 552 deluxe fieldmaster NRA edition.

The prices are from last years Blue Book. They may have gone up some.

 

[Wizard]

Thanks, Gunman....these would be on the low end....both need to be refinished, at the very least.....

 

[Johngoboom]

The model 12's can vary a lot based upon age and options...does the gun have a vent rib? If not, and it's not a very old or rare year, I would say $225-$350 with the description you gave us.

If you do a serial number search, you can find out the year of manufacture pretty fast.

http://www.mchenry-sc.org/Engineering/Model_12.htm

 

[Wizard]

John, no, it does not have a vent rib...I followed the link, and according to the serial #, which is on the bottom of the receiver and the bottom of the barrel flange, this gun was mfg. in 1920.....

 

[Bountyhunter]

That's an oldie. Is she thinking about selling them? Or is she just curious as to what they are worth?

 

[Wizard]

She wants to sell them and buy a revolver..... :? ....btw: stamped on the barrel is "Nickel Steel".....from what I can gather, the early guns were made from nickel steel, and the later guns from "proof steel".....

 

[Bountyhunter]

Trade her something. You have any revolvers you don't need?

 

[sheepdog]

I'd offer her $350 for the both...clean the snot outathem and have both reblued properly...the last Speedmaster I saw was an ADL...$225 with some scratches and blueing wear....they were a fine rifle...or trade her for a good revolver....a new Taurus .38 or .327, I think the new caliber is???? Even with the reblueing, the Model 12 would sell for enough to pay for them both...if you even wanted to sell them....easy for me to say, I don't have to bake that many donuts, right?!!!

 

[Cast&Blast]

I wouldn't reblue a Model 12 that old. I think they look kinda neat with the bluing worn. Have you looked down the bore of the M12?

Do you want to send it to me to shoot for a few months while you're looking for a revolver?

 

[sheepdog]

Now would that fall under "advice" or "guidance"?

 

[Johngoboom]

I wouldn't reblue a Model 12 that old. I think they look kinda neat with the bluing worn. Have you looked down the bore of the M12?

Do you want to send it to me to shoot for a few months while you're looking for a revolver?

I'm with you on this one Eddie...I would think one that old would sell for around $400 or so depending on condition. The blue wear really isn't a problem as on a gun that old, it is expected to be wore. The stock having a crack does detract from the value, but If it bothers you shooting that way, buy a set of aftermarket wood, and go to town. The only way I would have that one re-blued is if you were going to make it into a trap gun, and have a vent rib put on it, as I don't think you are, I guess that's really a non-issue.

As long as the gun doesn't have a lot of rust pitting, the blue wear is fine...Just Flitz the snot out of it, and shine it up real nice, and you could have a real nice shooter. That nickle steel will clean up really nice with a full polish job. As a side note, the Mod barrel is more rare. The majority of those guns all had full chokes. The nickle steel is more desired as that was what they used on all the pre 1950's (I think) guns.

By the way, don't send it to Eddie to hold onto, send it to me. :lol:

 

[Cast&Blast]

By the way, don't send it to Eddie to hold onto, send it to me. :lol:

That's crazy talk. I'm several hundred miles closer to Florida! Think of the savings in shipping...

 

[Wizard]

Thanks, guys.....gotta think about this.....

 

[Wizard]

Well, the "thinking about this", just got a little more serious....I couldn't sleep well last night, thinking about when I was a kid, and my father taking me squirrel and turkey hunting. I remembered that I always carried a Winchester .410ga pump....did some research last night, and went down to mama's house this morning, and looked at it....it is a Winchester model 42....the serial # leads me to believe it was probably manufactured between 1960 and 1963....only 160,000 of these were made, and this one is in the 158,000 serial # range....

It would be nice to have a model 12 and a model 42.....I would suspect, from reading I did last night, that the model 42 is probably worth about $1000.00. It shows some use, but is probably in about 75% or so, condidtion.....then again, I'm not so sure mama would part with it....she didn't even remember how daddy came to own the gun, so I refreshed her memory....remember daddy telling me the story like it was yesterday.....my brother wasn't allowed to shot that .410....daddy's rule....he let him shoot a 20ga bolt action....think my brother still has that gun.....

 

[sheepdog]

...and you're gonna tell us WHEN? Is this another Bigfoot on Friday waiting game????

 

[sheepdog]

Don't sell it too cheap if you do decide to sell it (I wouldn't)...look at the price for a plain barrel here:

http://www.shootersxchange.com/winchester_shotguns.cfm

One of my deepest regrets is letting my Dad's Remington 121 and 141 pumps go at a pawn shop in the 70s....they were his graduation gift from his dad....

 

[Wizard]

I really don't want my mil to get rid of the model 12....will let you know when something happens.....

 

[Wizard]

Well, it was not meant to be..... :lol: ....my Mother's logic on the model 42 is that when she passes on, it will be mine.... and when my wife told my MIL the price range of old model 12's, she decided she would sell it for the high end price range....$1500 minimum....wife told her it was in bad shape and would not get that much, but, didn't do any good....I didn't even let her know I was interested....she's convinced she will find someone to pay that....or rather, that I will.......

Now, I've got the hots for a .41 for these tree rats..... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

 

[sheepdog]

...that'll really mess up the meat....