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of the two guns mentioned, i have no first hand experience but from what i have read, i probably would pass on both.

What i have had experience with is the kel-tec p-11 and i believe it to be a fine weapon that i would have faith in and splits the difference in size between the two----if ya can master the trigger.

my concerns about the pf-9 is that it is still a relative new design and the reported teethin' problems that it has had-----but i also read of very positive reports on kel-tec customer service.

the taurus p-111 has been "spotty" from what i've read, but also have been readin' a lot of negatives when it comes to taurus customer service.

again, of the two guns you mentioned, i have no first hand experience. ..........
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