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My Kahr CM40 is the same size and weight as a 380 . So why carry a 380 . If recoil bothers you get CM9 in 9mm not CM40 in 40SW
The CM40 weighs 17.7 oz and the Beretta is 11.5 oz (both with mags inserted and unloaded) so significant difference in weight for my purpose which is walking in gym shorts or sweat pants. My EDC is a Sig P938.
 

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I wear Jim shorts and a Tee-shirt 300 day a year in my part of Tx and I carry 2 Gun . One my NAA in 22 mag around my neck under T-shirt and the other gun is Glock 23C with extra 13 rd mag ..If they fail me I carry a fighting cane too . :roll:.







 

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We live in a low violent crime, rural area. For years I pocket carried either a 357 magnum snub or a 44 Special Bulldog.
Then I checked out a Ruger LCP2. Light, flat, quicker to reload than a revolver/HKS speed loader combo.
In the front pocket of my jeans it disappears. I carry a spare magazine in a small nylon knife pouch on my belt.
 

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I'd like the carry ease of a .380, but just don't trust pistols or less than .38 Special.

If I did go for a pocket rocket, I couldn't do plastic, either. That leaves the Sig P238, Guardian, or Seecamp; IIRC. The PPK would be great, but not quite pocket size.

Never have understood .380 ammo costing more than 9mm.
 

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I'd like the carry ease of a .380, but just don't trust pistols or less than .38 Special.

If I did go for a pocket rocket, I couldn't do plastic, either. That leaves the Sig P238, Guardian, or Seecamp; IIRC. The PPK would be great, but not quite pocket size.

Never have understood .380 ammo costing more than 9mm.
When the tiny .380s hit the market the ammo was in huge demand and there was no military or police ammo as with 9mm.

I think the better .380 loads are as good as .38 Special from a snub revolver. I prefer something a bit more potent than either but I would certainly not feel uncomfortable with a good .380 with good ammo. My Walther PK380 has been reliable and is easy to shoot. My LCP is incredibly thin and light. Not what I would want as a primary weapon but so easy to hide and much better with it's DAO trigger than the old pocket autos. I would prefer a J frame revolver to an LCP for general use but the LCP could hide when the J frame could not. The newer super small 9mm autos have cut into the small .380s market but I think they are viable protection guns and better for some people.
 

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I owned a 38 Spl LCR with the 1 7/8" BBL and Buffalo Bore 158 gr LSWC-HP/GC +P's I chronied 1017 FPS out of it. They were 20 FPS faster out of my 2 1/4" SP101. Our of the LCR there was 362 ft/lbs with a momentum factor of 22. That isn't happening out a .380.
 

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I owned a 38 Spl LCR with the 1 7/8" BBL and Buffalo Bore 158 gr LSWC-HP/GC +P's I chronied 1017 FPS out of it. They were 20 FPS faster out of my 2 1/4" SP101. Our of the LCR there was 362 ft/lbs with a momentum factor of 22. That isn't happening out a .380.
Completely agree. I just have not loaded anything that potent in a light gun in a long time. My hands will not take it anymore.
 

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Due to my experiences with the LCR, I'd be afraid to shoot any .38 +P out of the .38 version, maybe not even the .357......:eek:

Hornady's 125 gr XTP .38 falls in between standard and +P; my best guess is that they'd be around 900 fps from my SP. My practice 130 FMJ should be around 825-850. The 3/8 inch extra over a LCR maybe helps a little.

I was a little surprised that I get the same POI from both rounds.
 

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Completely agree. I just have not loaded anything that potent in a light gun in a long time. My hands will not take it anymore.
Made me wish I hadn't. That was the beginning of my hate thing for the LCR. It had a nasty twist to the recoil and raised welts on my hands after twice around the cylinder. Then the poor trigger reset convinced me of the error of my ways. The S&W 642 I replaced it with wasn't nearly as nasty to shoot. Now I carry a Sig P938 (9 MM) and that is a cream puff to shoot and I can shoot more accurately than the LCR or the 642.
 

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Sig P238, Ruger LCP, Bersa Thunder (bought it new for $150. Surprisingly not a bad gun.), also a Browning1910 that I believe was never fired. Just found in a gun shop looking around.
I like the Sig the best due to its 1911 style.
 

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Haven't heard from the OP since May?

I'd like the carry ease of a .380, but just don't trust pistols or less than .38 Special.

If I did go for a pocket rocket, I couldn't do plastic, either. That leaves the Sig P238, Guardian, or Seecamp; IIRC. The PPK would be great, but not quite pocket size.

Never have understood .380 ammo costing more than 9mm.
There is a very simple reason .380 acp cost more that 9mm.

9mm is the most popular & the .380 acp is made on the same machines, so they have to stop making 9mm to do a run of .380acp.:eek:

My wife & I have been carrying a matched pair of Sig P238's for years & they are fantastic.
 
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