[deputy125]

well, i was talking to some troopers today and found out that the State is considering changing up the issue handguns and are possibly looking at the springfield XDM chambered for the .357 sig.........

don't know if they will change but was told that the "powers that be" had some examples and were testing........seems that they like the ability to change the grip size to accomodate officers........

time will tell..................

 

[thunderjohn]

From what I've seen and heard, it's a great gun. Only seen a couple used ones for sale.
That says a lot in itself.

 

[Bountyhunter]

I think they'd be a fine gun. I wonder why the caliber though? Do they not use the 45 acp because of pass thru?

 

[Wizard]

I agree on the caliber choice, BH....but, a lot of LE agencies around the country are going to the .357 Sig.....I would rather have the .45acp, myself

 

[deputy125]

I think they'd be a fine gun. I wonder why the caliber though? Do they not use the 45 acp because of pass thru?

actually, they want the penetration. they carried the ole' smith model 28 "highway patrolman" .357 mag revolver for years and years until the "upgraded" to the sig 220 in 45 acp.

they ran into some trouble there from what i understand on a few shootings where it lacked enough penetration to punch through some vehicles-----after all, they are the "highway patrol" and the vast majority of their work is on the highways dealing with vehicle stops----not the avg citizen contacts on crowded sidewalks and in houses.............

anyways they seem to be sold on the .357 sig round for its power and penetraton which from what i understand from a few shootings they are extremely pleased with vehicle penetration. the current issue weapon is the sig 226 DAK in 357 sig..........

 

[Wizard]

As much as I like my XD-45, I cannot understand why they would switch from a P226 to an XDM.....my P226 is in 9mm, but I don't think you can ask for a better weapon than a P226.....

 

[deputy125]

from what i understand, trouble with troopers with "small hands"......the changable grip of the xdm is suposedly more adaptable..........

 

[Wizard]

You've got a point there....the P226 does not have a small grip.....

 

[Cast&Blast]

from what i understand, trouble with troopers with "small hands"......the changable grip of the xdm is suposedly more adaptable..........

Is this code for "female officers"?

 

[Cast&Blast]

from what i understand, trouble with troopers with "small hands"......the changable grip of the xdm is suposedly more adaptable..........

Is this code for "female officers"?

Every time I see my avatar it makes me smile and wish I was home.

 

[deputy125]

from what i understand, trouble with troopers with "small hands"......the changable grip of the xdm is suposedly more adaptable..........

Is this code for "female officers"?

could be.............

 

[Cast&Blast]

from what i understand, trouble with troopers with "small hands"......the changable grip of the xdm is suposedly more adaptable..........

Is this code for "female officers"?

could be.............

I don't want to sound - or be - sexist, but if departments are making changes in pistols, caliber or ammo to accommodate female officers...I mean if they are using weapons they wouldn't otherwise switch to if there weren't a problem with women handling the existing issued gun, doesn't that put the officers who don't need the girly grip at a disadvantage? Why couldn't they issue two gun options?

 

[Caveman]

I had that discussion with my cop cousin. It's why they went to the .40 instead of .45 after they found out 9mm has a nasty habit of not getting through windshields. The practice of hiring tiny people and women instead of big burly mean men has been hurting the police business for some time, and is a large part of why the cops have become a paramilitary force in our streets. They need technology like tasers and crap because of affirmative action hiring, but can't pack a man-size weapon or cartridge.

That all said, just what we need. the proliferation of yet another useless caliber.

 

[deputy125]

i believe the xdm is getting a hard look to accomodate all grip sizes. I as well have heard of depts wanting to go with the 45 but settling on a 9/40 format due to grip size.

just sort of taking a page from the revolver book---don't change the gun....change the grip. Which in all honesty is a good idea and i guess another advantage you can chaulk up to the plastic guns.........

one thing is for sure though, TX DPS (State Police) do seem to be fanatic supporters at the moment of the 357 sig cartridge.

I like the round myself but from talking to others---it is a royal pain to reload for.....so much so from what i hear it would not be worth my effort.

 

[Taurus_9mm]

I'm interested in an XDM but only in 9mm and .45 ACP (when made available). If .357 Sig ammo were on par, cost wise, with 9mm I'd give it a look, just to have something a little different. 357 Sig Ammo costs are somewhat prohibitive for me), but with the LE agencies footing the bill for their respective departments that's not an issue for them obviously.

 

[thunderjohn]

Small hands have nothing to do with wimpy cops. I've sold several pistols to guys
with small hands that could take on a few of us at once. They are limited to which
guns they can shoot well.

I know several female cops that most guys won't mess with. And I know some monster cops
that some idiots still want to take on. Size helps on the job, but it's not everything.

Small hands? Seems like Bruce Lee had small hands.

 

[Caveman]

Okay, so you know exceptions to the rule, but speaking in generalities is so much more efficient.

 

[thunderjohn]

Okay, so you know exceptions to the rule, but speaking in generalities is so much more efficient.

That it is.